Secrets to Living a Happy Life at Any Age: Ramona Galey's Journey
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Cathy:Hello. I'm Cathy Worthington. Welcome to an empowering episode of late boomers with our guest Ramona Gailey, award winning author of the book, From Lonely to Fearless, and founder of the Alignment Circle.
Merry:And I'm Merry Elkins. We're looking forward to hearing Ramona's story and her advice for boomers and also for the younger crowd. Welcome to late Boomers, Ramona.
Ramona Galey:Thank you so much. Merry and Cathy, I'm really glad to be here. We're looking forward to our chat.
Merry:We are too. Thank you for being here.
Cathy:Ramona, tell us about your journey and how you discovered a transformative path to self acceptance, alignment, and enlightenment. Oh. A lot of big words.
Ramona Galey:A lot of big words and a pretty long path too, but I'll start with the most recent leg of it, shall we say, which was about 10 years ago. My, my life partner, Betty, we'd been together for 24 years, the love of my life, my only reason for existence, she passed away. She died in my arms from pancreatic cancer. And, boy, that took me took me cut me off at the knees. I was ready to follow her, frankly, trigger alert or whatever.
Ramona Galey:But, yeah, about a week later, my friend, Madge, that had come down to stay with me. She left that morning, and I was planning, I was actually beginning to write my suicide note, and the phone rang. And it was Betty's best friend, Lardella. And Lardella started talking, oh, I just heard about Betty. I'm so sorry.
Ramona Galey:You know, that's awful. And I and I was crying, and I I didn't tell her what my plans were, but I was probably talking about these rings that I was very upset about that we had lost. And, I was feeling really guilty and just silly, you know, low low low vibration feelings. And she said, do you gotta stop thinking like that right now? And I said, well, yeah.
Ramona Galey:Ludella, I'm 55 years old. I've been trying to control my thoughts my whole life with no success. And she said, well, have you ever heard of Abraham Hicks? I said, no. I still laugh at this.
Ramona Galey:I thought I said, is that a disease? You know, like Braxton Hicks or something?
Cathy:Oh, right.
Ramona Galey:No. No. It's a spiritual teacher and, you know, I follow them. And, you know, it's the funniest thing because Lordella had just lost her husband a couple years before, and I watched her go through that and come out the other end. And I remember thinking, boy, I just could never do you know, survive the way she I mean, she was I mean, obviously, she was upset and everything, but she just had such grace.
Ramona Galey:And I wanted some of that. And so she was probably the only person on the whole planet I would've listened to that day, but I listened. And she talked we talked for about an hour that first day, and she told me some books to go and get. She sent me a bunch of CDs that she had in her closet that she had never given away, and I just took to it like a duck to water. I just took off running.
Ramona Galey:I was very skeptical at first, except for the fact that Lordella endorsed it because I had always been very linear thinker before that. Very science minded, very fact oriented, very numbers oriented. And so, anyway, I just I could tell by the end of that 1st month that I was feeling so much better, and I could felt like I could see the light at the end of the tunnel. So I gave myself a year, you know, I kind of reserved the right to take myself out later, but I thought, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna fully explore this and see where it goes. And, it took me to right here.
Ramona Galey:About 5 years ago, I started channeling the way Esther Hicks does. In fact, I I used her basically as my my role model. And by then, I had been to probably 40, you know, workshops of theirs. But you you couldn't actually work with her directly, like, on a personal like, I'm a a classical trumpet player. That was my first, career.
Ramona Galey:Yeah. And so whenever anybody could do something and I couldn't do it, I'd go and take a private lesson from them, pay them some money, and take a private lesson. So that's what I wanted to do with Esther, but she doesn't take private clients. She doesn't take small group clients. So I had to go to these Mhmm.
Ramona Galey:All over the world to go to these cruises and workshops and stuff and listen, you know, of course, on on YouTube there's a bunch of information and, reading a lot and and meditating a lot. I finally figured out how to meditate. I had been trying that my whole life. Anyway, all of that leads me to about 5 years ago when all of a sudden, really out of the blue, I started, doing the same thing, and I've been helping people ever since. I love that I provide the thing that I couldn't find.
Ramona Galey:You know, it took me a lot longer. My my my awakening, took a lot longer because I didn't have a role model. Somebody that I could, like, sit right next to the way I used to with my old, you know, trumpet teachers or talk to and ask questions and and get feedback like like immediate personal customized feedback to me. So that became very important to me to be able to provide that for my clients and so that's what I do.
Cathy:And also possibly you were blocking it a little bit. You were blocking the Sure. The awakening. You were it could have come to you sooner maybe.
Ramona Galey:Absolutely. We're all blocking it. If we're not feeling it, we're blocking it. That's there is no other way where for it to be. Right?
Ramona Galey:And sometimes grief
Merry:blocks it too.
Ramona Galey:Of course. And and if you're if you're focused on lack, which grief is just a focus on lack, if you're focusing on lack, you cannot see abundance. You cannot receive abundance. You can't feel abundance. You're blocking it for sure.
Merry:Mhmm. Wow. Yeah. And, also, you mentioned, your your your partner's friend. Well, it's always important to have friends around when you are, you know, experiencing loss.
Merry:I know was around when my husband passed on, and she really gave me a real boost and kept me going. And I hope I did the same for her. But, anyway Yeah.
Cathy:We both have been through what you've been through.
Merry:Yeah. There's nothing better
Ramona Galey:than great friends.
Merry:It's absolutely. So talk about the alignment circle. Tell us what it is and why you created it. And then talk about what it's like, what it feels like to be out of alignment.
Ramona Galey:Okay. Well, so starting with the alignment circle. So the first 4 years, that I was doing this receiving infinite intelligence and by the way, my entity or whatever you wanna call it of my infinite intelligence that I received, they're named Oprah. Not Oprah Winfrey, just Oprah, o p r a, just like Esther receives Abraham. And so when when I started receiving them, I did it privately for about 4 years, just private sessions.
Ramona Galey:I didn't think I wanted to do groups. I really enjoyed the intimacy of just 1 on 1, and because, like I said, I had been looking for a private teacher, I wanted to be that person. Then, my colleague Gina, Mallison, she wanted for us to do a cose cofounding group, and and that was last year, middle of last year. We did that for several months. It went so well.
Ramona Galey:I decided to go ahead and start my own group and called it the alignment circle. And we meet twice a week because momentum is one of the most important assets we can have. And if you do something once a week, you're not likely to develop any momentum. Just like even every on a daily basis, even if we, you know, wake up and then we meditate and then we're feeling really great and then we watch the news.
Merry:Yeah. Right.
Ramona Galey:You know. Right? It just takes us right out. So we end up with this, what I call the seesaw effect. Up, down, up, down, up, down, up.
Ramona Galey:Then we don't actually go anywhere. So twice a week, 90 minutes. And so it's a big time commitment and it's it's been just magnificent. The people get incredibly faster results even compared to private, unless the private is done kind of along the same basis. It's not that it's private versus group, although there is there are benefits to each one, but meeting twice a week has been really a big game changer.
Ramona Galey:It helps people to really start to get the feel for it. When, in other words, when when Oprah comes on board, everybody in the room can feel unconditional love. And if you think about it, as Americans, where do we go to feel unconditional love? There aren't too many places. You know, if you believe in if you're if you're a Christian, you can kinda go to church and hopefully feel it there.
Ramona Galey:If you're meditating, maybe you're feeling it there, but that's 15 minutes out of the whole day, and it's and it's something that you're kind of experiencing in this kind of passive state when you're talking about animals. Well, exactly. Exactly. That's why they're so great. Right?
Ramona Galey:People scroll the Internet for hours just looking for that charge of innocence and and joy that the babies and animals have. But if you could feel that yourself anytime you want, that's hugely powerful. It's hugely transformative, and that's what Oprah does. Oprah gives them everybody the tools, including me, more and more all the time, the tools to control our focus, to control our own thoughts, and therefore our vibrations, in other words, our feelings, and we can feel unconditional love. I can tap into unconditional love just like that, and so my can my clients after a while.
Ramona Galey:It just takes just takes a little practice. We're just remembering. I'm not actually teaching anybody anything. We're remembering because we were a baby at one point. When we came here, we knew unconditional love.
Ramona Galey:Somewhere along the way, we kinda lost touch with it, most of us. Not all of us, maybe, but everybody I know lost touch with it at some point, and I certainly did. And so this is coming back to to to the core, you know, back to center, back to who we really are. It's so beautiful. It's very effective.
Merry:Yeah. And when you're out of alignment, how do you know it?
Ramona Galey:Because it feels bad.
Cathy:Okay.
Ramona Galey:I mean, it's I know that sounds simplistic, but that's exactly how Oprah shows people how to follow their own guidance. You know, everybody talks about intuition, you know, like that uh-oh feeling. Everybody knows that feeling. It's in your gut. Right?
Ramona Galey:Well, when you're feeling guilty, when you're feeling ashamed, when you're feeling angry, when you're feeling afraid, it's in your gut. And you can tell by your gut how it feels, whether you're looking at things the way that source is looking at it or or align infinite intelligence, God, whatever you wanna call it, that pure love. Or if you're looking away, the further away you look from love, the worse it feels. And so it's like it's like living by braille. Right?
Ramona Galey:Except that it's inside ourselves. It's by the feelings. And the less we think and the more we feel, the better off we are,
Merry:for sure. Mhmm.
Cathy:And what are some specific roadblocks that we can watch out for when we're trying to, achieve consistent alignment and joyful manifestations?
Ramona Galey:Well, anytime you catch yourself not feeling good, when as soon as you can come back to the breath, like, in other words, it can be slight. It can be a little bit of a criticism or a complaint or, oh, do I have to do this again? Like, that kind of thing. Or it can be all the way up to, I'm gonna go protest this horrible thing, you know, or I feel like I wanna die, you know, if you're depressed and suicidal and all that. All of these lower vibrations, we can bring ourselves up out of by changing our focus.
Ramona Galey:It's one of the big things that that Oprah reminds people, You can choose your focus just like a photographer that has a camera. And if you look through that lens, if you wanna focus on that duck over there and there's a bunch of grass that you don't wanna included, you just zoom in a little bit, and then you make sure it's real crystal clear, and you take your
Cathy:picture. We do the same
Ramona Galey:thing with our minds. I know. Right? It's a great metaphor because everybody's tried to take a picture. Now that we all have phones with, you know, with cameras in them, everybody's tried to take a really nice picture.
Ramona Galey:Well, we do the same thing with our focus. And we learned early on how to start screening things from our focus. Right? I mean, that's you think about autistic children, they are not able to screen overstimulation. Right?
Ramona Galey:But most of us do screen overstimulation or anything that we've seen a 1000000 times, we start to screen it out. So we're doing the same thing with our focus whether we know it or not. When you get intentional and conscious about your focus and you give yourself permission to only focus on things that feel good, boom, miracles happen. I mean, you change your entire world just by focusing on what feels good. We call it, Blisscipline.
Ramona Galey:The commitment to only focus on that which feels good.
Merry:I love that.
Ramona Galey:Right?
Cathy:Blisscipline. Isn't that great? I love that. Blisscipline. Yeah.
Cathy:Yeah. Yeah.
Merry:That's great. I'm writing that down. You're blissful.
Ramona Galey:Have trouble giving themselves permission to have discipline because they feel like they have to focus on all of the negativity in order to either guard themselves or protect others or or be informed, you know, which is kind of protecting others. You feel like you have to be a good citizen and all that. But if you will focus only on that which feels good for just a little while, the feelings that will come and the inspiration that will come and eventually the abundance that will come, you will put yourself in a position to be able to help anybody you want. But it's just like the airlines say, put your own mask on first and then help the next person because if you're passed out, you know, if I'm passed out, I can't help the person that I love that's sitting right next to me. So, that's just, you know, one of the things I teach is one rule, do whatever it takes to feel good.
Ramona Galey:One skill, learn to discern what actually feels good to you. There's the skill right there. And then one habit, allow things to unfold naturally. So we teach that a lot. And if you think that eating, you know, a bunch of donuts or getting drunk or having pornography or going gambling or whatever whatever the the kind of the distractions that we use for ourselves, if you think that's what makes you feel good, then with a little bit of training, you'll start to determine, you'll start to be able to feel in your body because we're always coming back to the body.
Ramona Galey:It's never about lessons or or, you know, preaching or teaching. It's about how does it feel? How does it feel right now in your body? How do you feel when you think about that? Which of these two options feel better?
Ramona Galey:Not which one pays better or costs less or will impress everybody. Which one actually feels better? It doesn't take long and people miraculous things start happening in people's lives. They seem completely unrelated. You know?
Ramona Galey:Things that they've been wanting for years show up. Relationships heal miraculously. You know? Just it's it's healing from the inside out, I guess you'd call it.
Merry:Yeah. You know, you've kind of covered a question that I had in my mind, which is what are the tools and the techniques or even the resources that you people should use to overcome times when they're out of alignment? But, also, what about you? What did you use exactly? You you gave us a little hint, reading and learning about Abraham Hicks and Esther Hicks.
Merry:But talk about that a little bit more. And then can you share some more tools with our audience?
Ramona Galey:Absolutely.
Merry:Oh, and now, so one other thing I wanted to ask you, what about if people are out of alignment who are with you and and all the craziness that's going on around you, how do you deal with that?
Ramona Galey:Well, I deal with myself only. I don't ever try to concern myself with anybody else. I can't control anybody else's thinking or feeling, what they're saying, what they're doing completely out of my control. And as soon as I release that control, first of all, I immediately start feeling better. And then second of all, when I'm in alignment, ideas and emotions, inspiration comes to me in a way very different from when I'm out of alignment.
Ramona Galey:So, you know, if if in alignment is is up here and out of alignment is down here on the vibrational scale, it's almost like, you know, 1, 2, 3, like a like a ladder scale. Right? If I'm up here and somebody else is down there, first of all, I can have compassion and kindness and gentleness in a way that I can't if I'm matching them down here. If I'm down here, we're gonna start fighting. Right?
Ramona Galey:Or we're gonna argue or we're going to agree to disagree and I'll stomp off, you know, or whatever the thing is. And instead, if I stay aware of myself and follow my own guidance, my guidance will guide me through it. And so it's different every time. It's different for every person. It's different, you know, for me today versus me tomorrow.
Ramona Galey:But it's all about being present, being right here right now. So the breathing can do that. Meditation can really help a lot. Appreciation is one of the most powerful tools you can use. Anybody can do it.
Ramona Galey:You can start right now. Look around and find something in your environment and say, I love this glass of water. I love how beautiful the blue glass is. I love how cool it is to to drink this water. I can feel it without even doing it.
Ramona Galey:I can feel it just going down my throat. So cool and refreshing. As I practice that kind of appreciation, which we don't teach or practice or observe much in our society. Right? It's a it's a it will feel like a new skill.
Ramona Galey:It's not because look at how babies will laugh at just about anything. Right? The one baby hiccups and the other baby laughs uproariously. Hilarious. Right?
Ramona Galey:We want to get back to that state as much as possible, and there are a million tools. For anybody who's in grief, this is one of my favorite tools. I call it the flicking technique. And I learned this from an Esther and Abraham Hicks lecture where they talked about the fact that Jerry, Esther's late husband, had this favorite merino wool sweater, and they used to love to sit by the fireplace, and they would have this special firewood that would snap, crackle, and pop, and you know very dramatic firewood. And I don't know what kind of firewood that is, I should get some.
Ramona Galey:But anyway, so if it would pop an ember out, what they would find was that if it landed on his sweater, and he just flicked it off, it wouldn't leave a mark. Even after a few seconds, if he noticed it and it's, oh, there's a you know, and he took his time, you know, and just flicked it off, it would go from red to black and just fall onto the ground. But if he didn't flick it off, because see wool doesn't really burn, But if you leave it on there long enough burning red, glowing red, it would eventually make a mark. It would start to to burn just a little bit of a hole. It wouldn't burst into flames, but make this this indentation black mark.
Ramona Galey:And so I decided that it's just like that for grief. Every time I would feel a wave of grief and I I had severe grief symptoms. Okay? I knocked out, like, I would literally find myself on the floor sobbing, couldn't get up. Like, really I mean, I was really carrying on quite a bit.
Ramona Galey:So I decided, okay. Every time I feel that coming, I'll just flick that grief away and just watch it go like that. Go from bright red, burning ember, bright red to benign. Completely benign black won't hurt anybody, not hot. And so I would do that sometimes over and over and over, but I would actually do this this flicking.
Ramona Galey:I've taught this to a lot of clients, and some of my clients have done some very creative things with this exercise. I'll tell you that my my favorite one. One woman came in the next time and said, I've done the flicking technique. It works magic. It works it's magical.
Ramona Galey:It works beautifully. What I see is I'm flicking my husband's head, and he goes rolling off down the hallway with a look on his face like on his face. So she was literally taking taking some anger that she had. You know, he he was being kind of brutal with her, to be frank. And, so she she was taking an experience that was otherwise overwhelming, just like my grief, and turning it into something else without hurting anybody.
Ramona Galey:And that that so I've had a lot of clients really respond very well to that particular technique. It works it works better for really strong sudden, waves of of out of alignment than it does for, oh, I'm just feeling bored today. It's hard to flick boredom to the to the curb, but it's easy to flick grief.
Cathy:I have some I know somebody, a close friend who needs that. I'm gonna teach her that technique today. Beautiful.
Merry:I think we all need that at times.
Ramona Galey:Yeah. Yeah.
Cathy:I think that's a really good technique.
Merry:Yeah. So we
Cathy:need to tell us a little bit about how you feel about the law of attraction because I know there are some myths that people believe about it. Can you dispel some of that or tell us what your views on that?
Ramona Galey:Absolutely. You know, the law of attraction, from my perspective is just a description of what is. It's not like some theory, you know, like I use the law of attraction. It's kinda like the law of gravity. We don't use the law of gravity.
Ramona Galey:It just is. And so many of the misconceptions come from people, teaching a lot of a lot of different ways that that it's taught, I think, is part of the problem. And so when people talk about just envision what you want and it'll come to you, well, that leaves out like the whole story. I mean, it's technically true, but it leaves out the the essence of it. The essence is when you feel, and this always comes back to feeling.
Ramona Galey:That's why think less, thrive more. It's like my little byline. Right? So think less, meaning come back into the moment, and you might take a couple of breaths to do this because once you're focusing on as I feel the sensation of air going in my nostrils, and I can feel it coming across my lips as I exhale. When I focus on that breath, I'm focusing on my body.
Ramona Galey:Now I'm right here, right now. I'm not worried about the future. I'm not regretting the past. I'm right here right now. And once I'm right here right now, now anything is possible.
Ramona Galey:Now I can feel my guidance, which I I have to be able to love my body to feel my body, first of all. So we women, we have a tendency to just cut it off right here and stop feeling stop noticing anything below the neck. And so there's there's sometimes there's some effort in this to get back into the body in a way that feels really comfortable. But once you do that, you can feel your guidance. Your guidance will tell you exactly how to get one step at a time, not 10 steps.
Ramona Galey:It's never a linear, you know, path, like boom boom boom boom boom. One step. Take one step. Do one small thing, and that will take you closer to whatever you want. As you feel that guidance and you follow it, you become your desire and you match it.
Ramona Galey:Now you feel great because of whatever you wanted, you wanted because it would feel good. Right? If it's a $1,000,000, you thought you were gonna feel safe. Right? If it's a car, you thought you were gonna feel, you know, pretty cool.
Ramona Galey:If it's a house, you're gonna feel secure. Right? Or or whatever. Whatever it is you want, those feelings that you want, you can have them right now. Now when you've matched it, it can come to you, and that's that law of attraction part.
Ramona Galey:It's like 2 magnets. Right? You turn a magnet you know, you remember the old horseshoe magnets? Probably dating myself here, but I haven't seen a horseshoe magnet a long time. But if you have another horseshoe magnet and they go like that.
Ramona Galey:Right? But if you turn this other one this way and try they go
Cathy:Yeah. You can't put them together.
Ramona Galey:You can't put them together. Right? That's the way vibration is. If I'm vibrating high, I can match anything I want. If I'm vibrating low, I can't sometimes I can't even see or hear or smell the thing that I want because I'm too far away from it.
Ramona Galey:So the vibrational part, the emotional part, the physical guidance part is missing from this thing that says just visualize what you want and you can get it. You actually have to match the thing you want, and then you actually have to be open to it showing up this or something better. If you get too specific, you're building all these roadblocks, so it has to be in this neighborhood, you know, if you're looking for a house, let's say, it has to have a door that's shaped like this, and it has to have a sidewalk that doesn't go straight, you know, and whatever the thing is, you're you're building a bunch of roadblocks. If you say, oh, I love the idea of a new house. I want it to be spacious and open.
Ramona Galey:I want high ceilings. I want a beautiful view. I want beautiful floors. I want comfortable furniture. I love this new house.
Ramona Galey:I love this new house. I love this new house. Now this house is on its way to me, Unless I go watch the news and go join a protest and start writing how horrible everything is and have a fight with my spouse. You know, if I can maintain that vibration, then all of that stuff, whatever I want, can start to come to me. And that's the essence of the law of attraction that I think a lot of people miss.
Merry:Mhmm. I love that.
Cathy:I get
Merry:it. That's more specific than anything I've ever heard, and that is not a roadblock. So talk about something that you wish you'd known before you had this awakening.
Ramona Galey:I wish I had known. So the first thing that I heard Abraham say in this very early in this you know, in the first couple of days, after me getting exposed to this material was that we came here eagerly. I burst into tears. I cried for an hour. I sobbed like a baby.
Ramona Galey:I came here eagerly. I'd spent 55 years trying to prove myself. I didn't even know who I was trying to prove it to. Not my parents, you know, they didn't care anymore. Not I mean, to who?
Ramona Galey:Who was I trying to prove it to? I came here eagerly? Wait a minute. The purpose of life is joy? Wait a minute.
Ramona Galey:Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
Ramona Galey:Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. That was how I reacted to all that.
Ramona Galey:It was like, you've got to be kidding me. I've been focused on the wrong thing for 55 years. 55 years.
Merry:Some people longer.
Cathy:Way longer.
Ramona Galey:Yeah. Some people shorter.
Cathy:That's true.
Ramona Galey:Some people way shorter. I've got younger clients coming in now. People in their thirties are starting to really figure this stuff out early, way early. I it's so lovely.
Cathy:It's it's magnificent. That's great. There's hope for our for our
Ramona Galey:Yes.
Cathy:Millennials and our younger people.
Merry:Yes.
Ramona Galey:Yeah. They are catching on a lot faster than I did.
Cathy:Yeah. Well, you work with spiritual guides for yourself and for others. So can you talk a little bit more about that? Are there other guides that come through you besides Oprah? Or is it always the same feeling or or what?
Cathy:How do you do that?
Ramona Galey:It's it's always a little bit different. And Oprah considers themselves a plural, like I call them they rather than him or her. Very similar to Esther's Abraham is considered a plural. Of course, they joke about it because Abraham's a a man's, a man's name. And so people that don't know anything about Esther and Abraham show up, and there's a woman on the stage being called Abraham, and her husband was very he's he's passed away now, but he was very, very active.
Ramona Galey:And so there's a man introducing a woman, and his wife's name is Abraham, and it's very confusing. So at least I don't have that part. But it is so the concept is that that it's it's whatever that is being summoned at the time answers the summoning. And so if one of you had a question, let's say your questions was about money, and then Oprah would answer the question, and they would be they would actually be whoever needed to be there in order or whoever wanted to be there to answer your question. But then, Kathy, if you asked a question and your question was about about love, about romance, let's say, then Oprah would answer that question.
Ramona Galey:But different Oprah's makeup, to the best of my ability to understand because they're not physical, so there's no real makeup, but the essence of Oprah would be different. Answering your question versus Mary's question. So it's it's the summoning. In other words, we humans, we specialize in asking, in wanting, in desiring, in craving. Like, please, I want more.
Ramona Galey:Even if I've got everything in the whole world, I still want more. And especially if I'm starving to death, I want food. Very, very strong summoning. And that's the power. We we don't know our own power.
Ramona Galey:Our desires are the most powerful force in the universe. They're divine, they're pure love, and they ex fuel the expansion of the universe. And so when we start to really allow our desires to say, wow, I don't have to be afraid of my desires? Are you kidding me? I can trust my desires?
Ramona Galey:Really? And you're saying I can actually have my desires? Are you kidding me? This is a game changer. That's the power.
Ramona Galey:And so the summoning of whoever's asking the question determines what comes out of me through Oprah or how Oprah comes through me. However, you wanna say that.
Merry:Do you prepare to to summon her or base them? I mean, how do you prepare?
Ramona Galey:Well, I take a couple of deep breaths. I come right back into the here and the now, and then I relax into the knowledge that they're coming. And the first time I did it, it was 2 really good friends of mine, Bob and Flora. And they knew that I had told them the previous weekend that I was going to be doing it, but I didn't know how or what. It was just it was a sudden knowing that came upon me.
Ramona Galey:And so when I saw them the next weekend, Flora, especially, was saying, will you do it for us? Because they've been going to listen to to Esther Hicks and Abraham for years. That's how I met them. And so I said, sure. Yeah.
Ramona Galey:And then I was spending the weekend. So that was Friday night. And then Saturday morning, she said, will you do it for us? I was like, oh, yeah. But we had a chainsaw party planned for the day.
Ramona Galey:It's a long story. But we had a lot of fun.
Cathy:Yeah. I saw it. Chainsaw.
Merry:Yeah. Yeah. But that used to be
Ramona Galey:a great It was a lot of fun. So anyway, after the chainsaw party, all the men with the big chainsaws had gone home. And we had, you know, gotten dressed and, you know, showered and whatnot. And then we had this lovely dinner that Flora had prepared. And then she said, how about now?
Ramona Galey:Would you like to do it for us now? And I was like, really? Now? And she said, yeah. So I said, okay.
Ramona Galey:So we sat down in the living room, and I closed my eyes. And basically, the first time, all I did was just imitate Ester Heggs. I mean, I'd seen her I'd been to 4 day workshops, so I knew exactly what it looked like on the outside. And I knew how to be present from actually studying all that material for 5 years. I knew how to come into my off and be present.
Ramona Galey:So I just combined those 2, and suddenly I knew things that I had no way of knowing. Suddenly I I saw things, It just normal things with a perspective that I had never had before. It was it was enough for me to say, wow. That's there's actually something to this. So the first thing I did was write to all my friends, all my Abraham friends, and say, hey.
Ramona Galey:I'm gonna be doing this. Anybody want a session? And and certain percentage of the people said, yeah. Yeah. Me.
Ramona Galey:Me. So then I just started it. And, and that's all it takes. Anybody can do this.
Merry:That's what I was going to ask you. Anybody can can anyone do it? And would it be they would find a different guide? Or
Ramona Galey:Yes. Yes. Absolutely. So Esther's guide is named Abraham. They gave her that name.
Ramona Galey:My name my guide is named Oprah. They gave me that name. But some people go and find out their guide, and then they name it. You know, they just decide what the name is gonna be. But I think even when they do that, they're really getting it from from their guide.
Ramona Galey:But some people say they have millions of guides and angels and different, you know, I just to me, Oprah is my inner being. Everybody has an inner being. It's our you know, so we're here in the physical, and then we're also here in the nonphysical, both, when we're in human form on the physical plane. We're both. We are God, and we are human, both.
Ramona Galey:And so whatever that is, you can think of it any way you want. You can put any color or any texture or shape to it. You can put any name to it. You can put any anything you want to it. It's pure love.
Ramona Galey:It can't hurt you. It will never hurt anyone. And get your human side out of the way. That's the thing that I practiced the most, especially in the beginning, was just how to get my human side off to the side and let Oprah just come through as purely as I possibly can. And, you know, I've had enough practice now that I just do it without thinking.
Ramona Galey:Yeah. But, yeah, that's how it works.
Merry:Yeah. We were talking about loss earlier, and I know that one of the greatest, obstacles to moving forward after loss is resistance to change. So talk a little bit about resistance and how we can release it and move on.
Ramona Galey:Absolutely. I love that question. Thank you. So resistance to change or to anything else is just resistance. And so as soon as you feel resistance, it doesn't matter what the cause is.
Ramona Galey:When you say, okay, and we're not talking I'm gonna be really clear. I'm not talking about risk like, resisting the resistance. I'm not talking about suppressing it. I'm not even talking about ignoring it. You know, you can go, oh, there's that thing over there.
Ramona Galey:I'm not gonna oh, boy. I I wanna look at that. Right? It's not that. You look it right in the eye and you say, hi there.
Ramona Galey:You're okay. I see you. I feel you. Oh, look. Squirrel.
Ramona Galey:And I just distract myself. Seriously, this sounds really simplistic. Okay? When you start practicing this, this is very powerful. Just look right at it and accept it for what it is.
Ramona Galey:Don't be afraid that by your approval, you're gonna make it get bigger. It's actually by your resistance that you make it get bigger. When you look right at it and you say, okay. I see you. Alright.
Ramona Galey:Thank you. Oh, and pick something to appreciate, even or just distract. You don't even have to find something to it. Glass of water, long hot shower, kids running through the hallway, doesn't matter. Focus on something else.
Ramona Galey:You do that consistently without feeding it any because no feeds it. The word no feeds it.
Merry:Yeah.
Ramona Galey:It's attention to it. And so when you shout no at something, you're basically putting fuel on the fire. And so as soon as you say, okay. I got it. Oh, just like that.
Ramona Galey:It's just that easy. It takes some practice, but it is easy. It's simple and easy. It takes some practice because we've practiced the other way so long. That's the only reason it takes practice.
Ramona Galey:Kids do this all the time. Try lecturing a kid about something.
Merry:You're right.
Ramona Galey:They're gonna try to look at anything but you because they know better. It's us who don't know better. So take take a take a page out of the kids' books and stop belaboring anything that doesn't feel good.
Merry:You're right.
Cathy:We grow older, and we forget all that wonderful, youthful energy and and innocence. Right? Yeah. But Yeah. So so how do you do that with loss particularly?
Cathy:Like, if you're having resistance to change and you've just lost somebody big in your life because you went through that. So how do you look at that and accept it and then say squirrel that you're talking about that with loss.
Ramona Galey:Appreciate. Mhmm. Absolutely. It doesn't matter what the resistance is. So loss think about the word loss.
Ramona Galey:I've lost something. So that is a definite, looking at the lack of something. So every subject is 2 subjects. Right? The thing and the absence of the thing.
Ramona Galey:Whatever it is. Whether it's love or it's an apple. Right? Either I'm got an apple or where'd my apple go? I don't know.
Ramona Galey:I lost it. Right? So when you look at anything as loss, you're not actually looking at the thing. The thing that you want. You want let's say let's say you've lost you know, a loved one has passed away.
Ramona Galey:You want love. You want the unconditional love that you felt from that person, at least at times. Right? I mean, we're all flawed, but sometimes the best of us can produce unconditional love to a certain extent. And so when you're used to having companionship, consistency, support, encouragement, all of these things, and then now you think it's gone, well, that's gonna hurt like, oh, get out.
Ramona Galey:Right? But if you start looking at remembering the beautiful times and also opening to the fact that your loved one is still here, and if you can get your vibration high enough, you can actually commune with them. You can actually feel their energy. You can actually have inner exchanges with them. It's not like talking, but it's it's actually much more powerful, much more satisfying to connect.
Ramona Galey:Like, I connect with Betty on a regular basis. Betty's a part of Oprah. I can feel the energy there. When I look at her picture and I remember just incredible times, I usually remember exactly, you know, what was happening around the time of the picture, and then also every other time that we have. We had glorious 24 years, and so it's really we've trained ourselves to look at loss.
Ramona Galey:We have not trained ourselves to look at presence. And when you switch that training, you start reversing that training, everything opens up. It's like everything it's like Technicolor, like Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz who walks out of the he says, wow. I don't think we're in Kansas anymore because this is Technicolor. It's just like that.
Ramona Galey:Seriously, it is just like that.
Cathy:Yeah. Let's hear a little bit about your book. Thank you for that explanation, by the way. I should have said that first. Really good explanation Yeah.
Cathy:Of that. But tell us about your book. It's called From Lonely to Fearless.
Ramona Galey:Tell
Cathy:us who it's for and why you wrote it.
Ramona Galey:I wrote it because I had gone on a photo safari last year. It was gifted to me very last minute. Oh my gosh. It was so amazing. It was so amazing.
Ramona Galey:And I knew I was gonna be off grid for at least 4 weeks, like, totally off grid. Like, we don't really think of our you know, we think if we're, you know, in a little bit of a of a low spot of signal, we're off grid. No. No. This was off grid for 4 weeks.
Ramona Galey:And so I knew when I came back, I made this intention very, very clearly. I even told some people about it. I said, okay. When I come back, all of the bits of my life are gonna be laying around like they're at a garage sale. Right?
Ramona Galey:They're gonna be on tables. They're gonna be on the grass. They're gonna be, you know, on book shelves that they've pulled out of the house. All kinds of stuff everywhere. And I'm going to go through this garage sale or yard sale and pick up only those things that I really like and leave everything else.
Ramona Galey:And that's why I didn't yes. Exactly. I love Marie Kondo. I've used Marie Kondo for years now ever since she first came out. I love all of that.
Ramona Galey:So anything in my life that sparks joy is the way she would say it. Right? Anything that sparks joy, I would pick back up again. And anything that didn't spark joy, I would just leave it there. I didn't have to let it go.
Ramona Galey:I didn't have to release it. I don't have to, you know, pare away at it. I didn't have to kick it to the curb. I just didn't pick it back up again. So that's what I did.
Ramona Galey:When I came back, it's exactly what I did. Wow. Well, guess what? I picked up so little, there was a huge vacuum. And what came into that vacuum was the book.
Ramona Galey:It poured into me, and it poured out of me. I was staying with a friend at the time, and she came by and she was like, Ramona, what are you doing? You haven't come out yet. And I was like because I was in, you know, her guest room. I was I was like, I'm writing a book.
Ramona Galey:You know? I'm typing typing typing. She's like, you're writing a book? She said, I didn't know you were gonna I was like, I can't talk now. You know?
Ramona Galey:I'm writing a book. So it just poured out of me. And Wow. So I wrote it for is everybody. Everybody who's ever felt down at all because lonely is kind of like a like a placeholder.
Ramona Galey:So lonely is kind of like you know how a lot of times we think we're hungry, but we're actually bored or retired or we're thirsty or upset? And I think I'm hungry. Right? So let's lonely is kind of lonely, you know. I'm lonely.
Ramona Galey:I I wish I could. I'm lonely. I don't even know exactly what would help because I can't think of anybody that would help, but I'm I'm lonely. And so loneliness is a disconnection with ourselves. Grief is a disconnection with ourselves.
Ramona Galey:Anger is a disconnection with ourselves. Afraid is a disconnection with ourselves. It's all disconnection. And so I take from the place of lonely and I kinda dispel some of the myths about loneliness. All all you gotta do is go out and meet some people, join a club, join the church.
Ramona Galey:Volunteer. All these action based solutions for an internal vibrational issue. So I teach how to go just like what we've been talking about, how to go inside and reconnect with self. It means not caring what anybody else thinks. It means getting back into our bodies.
Ramona Galey:It means really learning to love ourselves again the way we did when we were babies. I mean, think about a baby. You pinch a baby, they're gonna scream and say, stop that. What do we do when somebody, either literally or figuratively, pinches us? We worry about, I don't want to overreact because what will people think?
Ramona Galey:Or, you know, we think consequences. We think everything except for how we actually feel right now. And so that's that's who the book is for. It's for anybody who's feeling disconnected in any way, shape, or form. I've got something like 41 case studies in there of clients that I've worked with, and and and how their case study kind of fits in with that particular chapter, And I including some of myself, I give a lot of, examples for my own life and lots of actionable tips on how to feel better, how to feel better about yourself, but also just how to feel better.
Ramona Galey:You do
Cathy:any of this.
Ramona Galey:But, yeah, you'll you can start feeling better right now would be my message. Right now
Merry:It's it sounds like, you you wrote it really quickly too.
Ramona Galey:Yes. I wrote it in about 4 days.
Merry:Oh my god.
Ramona Galey:The draft. Okay? I did a lot of revisions, and then I got a lot of really great editing feedback, and it changed quite a bit. And but, yeah, the initial lump part of it emerged in 4 days or got it emerged immediately. I would say it took me 4 days to actually get it in onto paper as they say.
Ramona Galey:It was into the computer.
Cathy:Wow. Our other authors are gonna be so envious of that.
Ramona Galey:Oh, yeah.
Merry:Some authors do it. Including Mary. Well, yeah. Oh, well. So
Ramona Galey:Well, I've almost written other books. I almost wrote a book called How I Finally Learned to Love My Mother. I almost wrote a book. What was the name of that one gonna be? It was gonna be out in I have all I've considered and wanted to and actually started several books earlier in my life.
Ramona Galey:I never ever, ever would have considered myself an author until the day I started writing this book.
Merry:I love that. So tell me some part. I'm I'm curious about you and and the people that you feel are very, more advanced in their spiritual journey. What would you say some of your challenges are?
Ramona Galey:I think the biggest challenge, anybody who's been working on their spiritual or their spiritual awakening, whatever you wanna call that for a while, personal development, you might call it even. I think the biggest challenge we face is that the initial skills and habits that we that we adopt, that we learn, you know, at a workshop or reading a book or whatever, and we adopt it and we implement it and things get better. But then they stop working. Right there, let's say the advanced student stage, which we're all students. Right?
Ramona Galey:But some of us are beginner students and some of us are advanced students. So the advanced student phase uh-oh. I feel like I'm backsliding. Uh-oh. I feel like I've got this glass ceiling, and I just can't get any further.
Ramona Galey:Uh-oh. I'm forgetting everything I've learned. What's wrong with me? That's the number one question that my clients come in asking. What's wrong with me?
Cathy:Mhmm.
Ramona Galey:And the in my you know, I think that we as humans, especially as women, we tend to say, that didn't go well. What's wrong with me? What did I do wrong? You know? And whatever it is, the house fell down.
Cathy:The house fell down. And that's not the right question, is it?
Ramona Galey:No. Not at all. Not at all.
Cathy:How can I feel better? What what should we be asking?
Ramona Galey:How can I feel better? There's a whole set of advanced skills, and and frequently, they're just a tweak on the original skill. Meditation, for example. Meditation is fantastic. Meditation is how Esther got going.
Ramona Galey:It certainly helped me a lot. I couldn't figure out how I tried quite a bit before this, you know, spiritual awakening that that happened for me. But after that, I well, one of the things that Lordella told me to do is go get their book called, Getting Into the Vortex, which I don't know if it still does, but in the past 10 years ago, it had a CD in the back. Now it's probably just a download. You go somewhere to get it.
Ramona Galey:But it had a CD in the back, and I started playing it. It's guided meditations and with this, off kilter, breathing thing that kind of keeps you focused on your body instead of letting your brain just go off into anywhere the way it does. You know? And so with just with that little bit of of priming the pump, then I was able to start figuring out different ways for me to meditate on my own. And I started suddenly beginning very satisfying meditations.
Ramona Galey:And so so that's just one example, right? But just meditation, if you don't develop the momentum of your meditation, like I was saying before, if you meditate and then have a big fight with somebody or, you know, go to work and, you know, and your boss is berating you and you're fighting back and, you know, all this conflict and drama and stuff, You've erased the the the the the momentum that you started from meditating. So the momentum is probably one of the biggest so when you first start to focus on anything positive, you start expressing any level appreciation, you start doing any kind of meditation, you're gonna start feeling better right away because everything was so negative before. Right? But you can only that only takes you so far.
Ramona Galey:And then once you've hit that, what feels like a plateau or what however you would describe that, some people just say I'm in fresh. A lot of people would come to me first. They say I'm just frustrated because I've been doing this and this and this, and everything's going better, but I still don't have boom boom boom boom. They have a big long list of things that they haven't gotten yet or things that they want even better. And I'm I'm doing I'm meditating every day.
Ramona Galey:I'm meditating twice a day. I'm meditating 3 times a day, but I'm not getting anywhere. And so the momentum is a big key. So and there there are quite a few things like that that just they're little tweaks or additions to the original set of skills that take you up to that next level and to the next level and to the next level.
Merry:Mhmm. Yeah. I like that.
Ramona Galey:And
Cathy:so what would you like our audience to have as a takeaway today?
Ramona Galey:Start now. Start now. Don't let don't wait. Don't think that you have to have some sort of a special purchase or a special kind of haircut or a special, you know, body shape or or people in your life or money in the bank. Start now.
Ramona Galey:You could be homeless on the street with nothing, and you could start right now to start to take the deep breath and get into your body and feel into your desires and feel the truth of who you really are, and you will immediately start to feel better. Start appreciating, look for anything around you to appreciate, even if it's just, I'm glad it's not raining today because I'm homeless. Right? I'm glad it's not cold. I'm glad the weather is is is good right now.
Ramona Galey:Whatever it is, I'm glad I have a shirt. I'm glad I have a pair of shoes. Whatever it is, I love this shirt. I love this shirt. It covers me.
Ramona Galey:It keeps me warm. I love that I can tell that lots of other people have worn it before me. It's been a well loved shirt, and I love the fact that I have it. Just whatever you can do right now to appreciate what's in your life and keep it up. Start now and keep it up, and be amazed at the miracles.
Ramona Galey:Starting inside. Starts inside first with your feelings about yourself and feelings about life. If and then you'll start feeling better about other people, and then you'll start to see more outward outcomes. But start now. Start inside.
Ramona Galey:Don't look for anybody to save you. Just start right now.
Merry:I love that, and I think I've already started. I'm sure Kathy has too. And I'm gonna take a deep breath and appreciate you. Thank you, Ramona. You're wonderful.
Ramona Galey:You, Mary. Thank you.
Merry:Our guest on late boomers has been Ramona Gailey, award winning author, personal coach, vibrational mentor, channel, and guide to help us all live a real true purpose driven life. Thank you. And you can reach Ramona through her web website, ramona gayleey.com. That's ram0nagaley.com. And, go into her website, find the private button, press it, and you might get a coupon for her training.
Merry:And, also, you might get a a free talk with Ramona. A free call. Thank you.
Cathy:Yeah. I want that free call too. I'm gonna check it out. We wanna thank our listeners for subscribing to our podcast and checking us out on YouTube and recommending us to your friends. We appreciate you, and we'd love to have you give us a 5 star review.
Cathy:And we wanna hear about your experiences with late boomers and what gets you inspired. We are on Instagram at I am Cathy Worthington and at I am Mary Elkins and at late boomers. Thank you for listening, and be sure to listen next week to our lateboomers podcast when we feature Kay Oliver who worked in Hollywood for 30 years and then became an award winning author. And thank you again to Ramona Gailey for today's lessons you learned.
Ramona Galey:Thank you both so much. Wonderful questions, wonderful energy, wonderful conversation. It was a real delight, and thank you so much.
Merry:Thank you.
Cathy:Thank you.
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