It's Easy: Listen to Your Intuition and Transform Your Life
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Cathy Worthington:Welcome to late boomers, our podcast guide to creating your third act with style, power, and impact. Hi. I'm Kathy Worthington.
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Cathy Worthington:Everyone has a story, and we'll take you along for the ride on each interview, recounting the journey our guests have taken to get where they are, inspiring you to create your own path to success. Let's get started. Hi there. I'm Kathy Worthington welcoming you to our latest episode of late boomers alongside my cohost, Mary Elkins. If you often wonder how to achieve what you most desire, today's guest, Mariana Cooper, will share insights on how to make it happen.
Cathy Worthington:She'll be discussing a topic we haven't explored in-depth before, the five d universe.
Merry Elkins:And I'm Mary Elkins. Mariana, or Mari as she likes to be called, is the author of the factor, beyond intuition, and the upcoming book, the five d toolkit. She's an internationally acclaimed intuitive life strategist and hosts the Moments radio show. Welcome, Mari. We're excited to learn about 5D and how we can access it.
Mariana Cooper:Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here.
Cathy Worthington:Great to have you. Please tell us about your background as a third generation intuitive and how and when you realized you needed more in your life to help you survive?
Mariana Cooper:Well, let's see. My mom was intuitive. My grandmother was also intuitive. And my mom actually studied with Shirley MacLean when she came out with her miniseries Out on a Limb. She kind of broke the ice of mainstream into all things new age and metaphysical.
Mariana Cooper:So I was actually, while the other kids were being taken to the mall and various normal kids things. I was being taken to channeling sessions and psychic readings in crystal stores back in the eighties. I was in a crystal shop with my mom. She was at the front looking crystals and I was in the bookcase, in the books section. And a book literally fell off the shelf in my hands.
Mariana Cooper:And it was by Shakti Gawain called Living in the Light. I ended up eventually on my own show. I had her She actually came on my show and was a guest on my show.
Cathy Worthington:Oh, great. I remember her. I remember. I remember reading.
Mariana Cooper:Yeah. She was definitely my entry into my entree into the New Age world. And for about, I don't know, about ten years, I just yeah, I was working in corporate. And corporate, of course, pushes your limits. And it got to the point where I realized two things.
Mariana Cooper:One is that my mom always had a psychic, so I'd go to these psychic readings with her. And I started to realize I had more of the answers than the psychic did, or the psychic was saying the things that I was getting myself. The second thing that I noticed was that my intellect, as smart as I was, I have an MBA, I have a BA in psychology, my mother's a psychotherapist, so I had all this background. The answers my life was far exceeding what the answers of the intellect could get me. And I think that's what happens as we get older and more mature and our lives start to get more complex And we get off of the career ladder that is prescribed for us and the family prescription of how you should be to be good in the family.
Mariana Cooper:Like my parents want us to have master's degrees and all that. And when you step off of the syllabus of life and life starts to hit you, we step through a gateway where our intellect can no longer answer. And you have to say you start to go into those spaces of who am I? Where do I fit in? Is this all there is?
Mariana Cooper:Are you kidding me? I thought I would be here by now. And then the biggest inciting incident was when my fiance passed away in my early 30s. We had a whole life plan together. And when he passed away, I went for a year around the different mediums asking to see if I could connect to him because I could feel something.
Mariana Cooper:And each medium I mean, I was on waiting lists for like six months. One of them for a year, George Anderson, one of the biggest mediums there was at the time. And every medium I went to, they said, he won't come through for us. He wants you to talk to him directly. So the last medium that I went to was at the Learning Annex in New York City.
Mariana Cooper:She was teaching a class, And it was on my fiance's what would have been his birthday. And I said to him, if you don't come through today, I'm never gonna try again. Like, I'm done. I've been doing this for a year. And it worked out that she made us swap pictures in the class And we each had to read each other.
Mariana Cooper:I thought we were just gonna get readings from her. And I ended up reading everyone in the class and being able to pick up, you know. So she actually offered me a job at the end of the class to help to apprentice with her. So from that point that night, I wrote 30 pages. I just kept writing and writing and writing.
Mariana Cooper:They're actually still next to my bed now, and this was a long time ago. They're all yellowed. And that was my kind of foray into the actual channeling part, where I was realizing there was a way to communicate.
Cathy Worthington:Were the pages coming from him?
Mariana Cooper:Yeah. Yep. Were you writing what he was saying? Mhmm. Was writing guidance to what he was saying.
Mariana Cooper:And for a while and then I got certified as a medium. I went and I got certifications and stuff because that's just how I was raised. You're not legit until you get a certification. But I realized that the mediumship was just an entree. And as I started teaching and building out my practice, and I left corporate America and I went into the whole spiritual thing full time, I realized that there was even more.
Mariana Cooper:That we have an energetic communication system that we're meant to be tapping into 80% of the time as opposed to our intellect, is supposed to be used 20% of the time. But we're not taught that. So we're all walking around kind of out of balance. You know, I won't get I won't go too far. I can go on and on.
Mariana Cooper:So I'll stop here.
Merry Elkins:Yeah. Well, okay. First of all, tell our audience briefly what an intuitive is. And then you were about to talk about the five d world. Right?
Merry Elkins:What you are an expert in. But also, there's a three d world that we seem to operate in three dimensions. Can you explain those and talk about what the difference is?
Mariana Cooper:Sure. So essentially, first major tenet that I always lean into is the premise. Most of us are exposed to some sort of formal religion when we're growing up. So I was raised Catholic. There's, you know, obviously, there's, you know, seven, eight, nine major religions.
Mariana Cooper:We're kind of steered at least in the direction of where this physical body first, and then there's some sort of maybe there's some sort of spiritual thing in us, the spirit, the holy spirit, whatever. And then there's a god over over there, and there's this division. And in between, the spirit within us and the god over there is a rabbi or minister or priest or some guy in there, you know, that we have to kind of get through to get to that bigger thing. And it has to be interpreted back to us. And so the first premise I had is isn't if there was and just bear with me because I'm going to get to the answer, but this is how I do it.
Mariana Cooper:If God was gonna make God, the God of your understanding, source energy was going to create eight, nine different major religions, 600 different ways of divination, all sorts of ways to ask for questions, to ask for things, to ask set intentions, to ask, to ask, to ask, to pray, to ask. When they make at least one robust way of getting the answers back, Like, why would you create a one way conversation with billions of people? It just doesn't make any sense. And so the answer is yes. And every religion, every spiritual system, modality has its way of receiving the answers back.
Mariana Cooper:And that's where the power is, is getting the answers. Right? And so that's what was where we got the middlemen in between is they slow down the answers. Oh, you have to go through me to get the answer. Oh, you have to go through her to get the answer.
Mariana Cooper:So so the first thing is the way that we're really structured is where these big giant balls of energy, that's eternal. So that whole we live forever. You know, we're all eternal, we're all infinite. And then as this big giant ball of energy, each one of us, we want to do two things. We want to expand and we want to ascend.
Mariana Cooper:We want to become more conscious of access to our energetic selves. So in order to do that, we take on a thimble of a body. So instead of it being a spirit within the body, it's actually a body within the spirit, within that energy. And a portion of that energy becomes the driver of that body car. The rest of us stays outside of that body car as the navigation system.
Mariana Cooper:So our higher self, our bigger self, our divine self, whatever you want to call that, is outside of this body car and as a portion of itself acting as the driver inside the animating energy of our body. So that's why our bodies move when we think and we speak. That's our consciousness. Right? So our consciousness that's animating our body is also the consciousness that's navigating us and helping us to go to navigate throughout our world.
Mariana Cooper:So when we talk about dimensions, third dimension and below is where things feel are tangible, solid matter. Solid and it's not really solid. That's another day's conversation too big for the show.
Merry Elkins:Mommy.
Mariana Cooper:So it's magic. Too big for our show. Yes. Well, it's too big for it's just just too long. You know was just and then then we have the fifth dimension.
Mariana Cooper:I'll get into fourth in a second, but the fifth dimension and above is where everything is nonphysical. It's all there, but it's not in a tangible shaped physical form. So the car that you're gonna get next year right now is in five d frequency. When you decide to get it, then it moves into through four d frequency into three d frequency. So that's how we So four d is the transit point between the two.
Mariana Cooper:So it's where we transfer from energetic form into physical form. And so the language that's there's an energetic communications language that swings back and forth between the two. And that's when we get into intuition and the ability to personally channel and etcetera. So is so five d frequency is where we're is nonphysical. Three d frequency is where we're physical.
Mariana Cooper:Four d is the transit point. So they say to meditate. They say to go out and get centered, to get into mindfulness. Well, what does that do? It raises your vibration so you get into the corridor, into the tunnel of the four d so that the five d can connect.
Mariana Cooper:So the five d drops itself down and slows itself down. But in order for us to get more of all this manifesting, all these things that we want, we need to speed our vibration up. And that's what happens kind of in those that in between spot. So when you just get quiet. When you're, you know, when you're observing your grandchild and you're just experiencing their smile or their giggle, you're going you're raising your frequency.
Mariana Cooper:You're connecting in. That gets you in the fourth dimensional energy. You you'd be amazed at how many things just, you know, watching your pet, you know, petting your dog, petting your cat, making a wonderful dinner that's really nourishing and just feeling like, okay, I'm gonna make the homemade tomato soup today and I'm actually gonna put cream in. All that kind of stuff. That raises the physical vibration.
Mariana Cooper:It make it quickens you so that as you're stirring that pot, you get that insight into that question that you thought, oh, yeah. You know what? Oh, that's what I could do. Because you're you're you're raising the overall energy. So then you make yourself available to the information that you might be missing in that solid area.
Mariana Cooper:Does that
Merry Elkins:You're raising your joy.
Mariana Cooper:Right. Joy is high frequent. Joy is at one of the highest frequency emotions. So so that's kind very,
Cathy Worthington:very good explanation of that.
Merry Elkins:Yeah. Yeah.
Cathy Worthington:Very good. And what what would you say are the energetic abilities that we were born with, but we were never told about?
Mariana Cooper:This is my favorite question. So okay. Buckle up. You have something for Okay. I got my You know how when people say, oh, she has a gift.
Mariana Cooper:Oh, they have the gift. Oh, it's not a gift. All that really is, is oh, she's developed her senses. Oh, she's developed her senses. We are all born with all of the energetic senses.
Mariana Cooper:So first things first. What I discussed in 5D frequency is not psychic development. So this is not about predicting anything. This is not mediumship where you're talking to people who have crossed over. This is energetic physiology.
Mariana Cooper:So frequency based physiology. So our bodies were born with an equivalent frequency sense. So we have energetic sight, energetic hearing. We even have energetic taste, energetic smell, energetic touch, energetic knowing. We call those there's more than four, but we call those basically the four clears.
Mariana Cooper:Energetic sight is clairvoyance. Energetic hearing is clairaudience. Energetic feeling like you know in your gut. Women, you kind of feel it in your gut. That's as clairsentience.
Mariana Cooper:And energetic knowing where you know that somehow you know, you just don't know how you know. Like, I don't have kids, but I helped one of my kids potty train his kid. And I told him like verbatim what to do and the kid was like potty trained three days later and he had been struggling with it. I didn't know how I knew, I just knew. It just downloaded to me.
Mariana Cooper:So that's a knowing, right? When you get those knowings. So those four And what's that one called?
Cathy Worthington:What's that
Mariana Cooper:one called? That's clear cognizance. Clear cognizance. Thank you. Energetic cognition.
Mariana Cooper:Now energetic sight is when you get like deja vu or you can see something like peripherally or you just get a vision of something and then it ultimately seems to come into fruition. Energetic hearing, in answering those unanswerable questions, you're gonna start to hear your higher self will send you songs in your ear to help you to get to some more of a contextual message.
Cathy Worthington:Wow, I didn't realize that. I get those all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't realize the connection.
Mariana Cooper:Yep. Yep. So you have these four energetic those four energetic senses. Now, your higher self, that part of you that's not embodied but is helping you navigate, always connects to those senses first. I call this the anatomy of the moment.
Mariana Cooper:So it always connects, number one, the first way you're going to get a message sent to you. And we're always getting messages, over a hundred messages being sent to you every day. And the way that we the first step of that message is always your energetic senses first. That's where it originates. So but if you haven't had those developed, the second tier of that message is your body response.
Mariana Cooper:So your body might feel a sense of lightness or a scent or goosebumps or a sense of heaviness or a sense of heat. Like if you get into something and you feel like, oh, know, that little heat feeling when you're angry, when you feel that first tick, that's your energetic sense. That's your physicality responding to the energetic sense that came first. And then the third part of the moment is that your higher self will go out into your environment. And it'll start to send you signs and symbols and synchronicities, synchronistic events to reinforce the hunch, what you consider to be a hunch or that knowing or that feeling you got, your higher self will say, yes, yes, yes, there it is, there it is, by giving you a sign, a symbol, a synchronicity.
Mariana Cooper:And we have all various different versions of those for ourselves. But it's always number one, it goes to your energetic senses first. Number two, your body says males in with, you know, getting some sort of sense. And then number three is your environment.
Cathy Worthington:Is this something that's missing in the educating of ourselves and our children about the five d world? What's missing?
Mariana Cooper:Everything as far as what your senses are and then how to lean into them. Because your energetic senses, what I just described, generally you're not even told about those until you're trying to go to psychics to get answers to why the guy isn't texting you, why your kid decided he doesn't want to go to church anymore, Why your mother-in-law is just never letting go. Why this is happening at work. Why the career went south. Or the job went this way and you want it that way.
Mariana Cooper:Or all of those, when you hit those those wall questions, which is why when I had originally written to you guys, I said that we go through this gateway, especially I I think women who are over 40 and going to their fifties become more intuitive as they get older because they've hit all of the markers that were supposed to happen, all the things that were supposed to happen in our regular ladder lives, you know, the career ladder, the family ladder, you know, the political, all the different ladders, those hit a wall because then we're being invited to our true authentic selves, to our true voice, to our true callings, to our true, you know, and a calling is different than a passion. So when we start to get into those areas where intellect can't do the answers, that's when all of these senses, the volume turns on. It doesn't mean that they turn on because they've been on all along. You know, like it like you're going you you can think of times in your childhood where you were in harm's way and you got yourself out of harm's way, but you didn't know how you did it.
Mariana Cooper:But you just knew like you're about to step off a curb and you stoned and a truck goes by. Or you get lost and somehow you're you know, some stranger helps you and then they're not there anymore. You know, all those kinds of different stories. Was They still happen. Well, yeah.
Mariana Cooper:Because but that's how your whole energetic side of your life is walking alongside of you. And the ability to communicate with that higher self consciously is what we call personal channeling or free form channeling. That it's like that goes my new book is called Beyond Intuition. So we go beyond the point of the basic intuition into actual energetic communication. That's meant to be a narrative for us.
Merry Elkins:Talk about a little talk a little bit more about your energetic communication system and something you call the energetic dashboard.
Mariana Cooper:Yes. Oh, okay. So the energetic dashboard. So here so when I talked about getting in the body car. Right?
Mariana Cooper:So we we inhabit our body car. And what happens is when we allow that animating energy to take on a lifetime so now, know, I'm taking on a lifetime as Mary. I'm taking on a lifetime as Kathy. Taking on this lifetime as Mari. So each one of us from our higher selves, from our own full full self, assigns a portion of us, okay.
Mariana Cooper:You're gonna drive the car this time. The rest the rest of me is gonna stay out here and help you navigate. We're gonna we're gonna get some stuff done. So when you step into your body car, you have tools. In the body car, what you have on the three d side of the dashboard is your physical senses, your, you know, all of your your biology and your physiology, and all of the negative emotions, blame, shame, guilt, fear, anxiety, all of that, jealousy, all of that goes on the three d side.
Mariana Cooper:That's an experience that you can have that creates those contrasting learning experiences. That's governed by your mental mind. So your intellect, your ability to analyze, your ability to remember the past. Your mental mind governs the three d side of the dashboard. It's meant to be a logistician.
Mariana Cooper:It's meant to be a historian. So you have all your you know, remember the past. And it's meant to watch other it's like a discernment, tool. So it watches what other people do. And that's why you'll say, oh, I'm not gonna buy that blender till I check Amazon.
Mariana Cooper:I'm gonna check the reviews, and then I'm gonna ask Sadie what if which one she got. And if she got the one I'm thinking, then I'll get it. So if your mental mind is limited though, it can't couple with this whole new ideas. It can't come up with solutions. It's not that's not what it's meant to do.
Mariana Cooper:It's meant to look at the past, keep you safe, and make sure that you're kind of in keeping with everybody else. It's kind of an organizer, so logistician. You have a second half of your dashboard though when you're embodied, and that is your five d dashboard. That's your energetic dashboard, and that's governed by your higher self. So that's connecting to the infinite.
Mariana Cooper:All of your new ideas, all the creative things that you come up with comes from the higher self. And on that side of the dashboard, you get what I call travel sized versions of what you can do when you're not in the body. Travel sized versions of your energetic tools that you have when you're not driving around in a body car. So that is your energetic communication system, which I'll get back into a second. Your ability to manifest, which are do alchemy, which is bringing things from the non physical into the physical for your personal use.
Mariana Cooper:Your energetic healing, your ability to heal yourself. And the energetic there's what we call energetic infrastructure. So we have physical infrastructure, which is time, space, linearity, gravity, laws of cause and effect, laws of Newtonian physics. But on the energetic side, we have an energetic infrastructure. No time, no space, no linearity.
Mariana Cooper:Everything happens in the present moment. So you've heard both of these. You hear both of They're meant to break together and integrate. And the energetic communication piece breaks down into three parts. And that's so that those two sides can communicate with each other.
Mariana Cooper:So the first part is intuition. That's when you say four forty four, you get the moments. You see thirty thirty three all the time, all of that. That's just the ringtone on the phone. That's not the message.
Mariana Cooper:So if you see these numbers 44711, oh my god, so and so called. It's saying ding ding ding. There's an there's a bigger message.
Merry Elkins:That There was a ringtone when you said that, by the way.
Mariana Cooper:Yeah. I know. That happened. I'm sorry. That was on my
Merry Elkins:was a perfect perfect timing.
Mariana Cooper:I shut down my email before I got on the call because I didn't wanna have the ringtone going off. And
Merry Elkins:there it goes off I just I want to know, for those of us who are trying to get into the five d world, what are the five signs that tell that your higher self is trying to get a message to you?
Mariana Cooper:Well, I think that's what I was just saying with the anatomy, the moment. So the first thing is it goes to your four clairs, your energetic senses first. The second thing is you're going to feel it in your physical body. The third thing, it's going to use signs, symbols, and synchronicities in your environment, and it's also going to use messengers. So if you are not fluent like right now, have over 2,000 messages on my phone from my higher self because I channel full contextual messages.
Mariana Cooper:So instead of writing it in a diary anymore, I I I will record it. But if you don't have that ability, you're not, you know, channeling your higher self. Your higher self will send you messengers so that it can get you more contextual information. So it's not just a little four forty four or so I was saying, oh, is that a sign? Oh, did I just see a blue butterfly?
Mariana Cooper:What does that mean? Instead of that, you have a messenger come and say, hey, I think you should do this, this, this, and you don't even know this person. You know, those are synchronistic things. So that's what your higher self uses to get the messages to you.
Cathy Worthington:Yeah. But we have to be alert to those. So is there a simple way people can access their energetic communication system and activate their five d frequency?
Mariana Cooper:Yes. There's a framework that I have.
Cathy Worthington:It's four
Mariana Cooper:parts, Clear, connect, communicate, create. So clearing, our energetic maintenance is like our physical maintenance. We need energetic hygiene as much as we need physical hygiene. Hygiene. So making sure that we do daily clearing of our energy and our frequency is going to help us to be able to get clearer messages to get a deeper connection.
Mariana Cooper:The second piece, the second c is connect. And that's where when you say, you know, meditate or at least get still, the one of the fastest ways you don't have to have hours of meditation. But the fastest way to connect is like saying, okay. I go to a store and I need a Wi Fi signal, and it's like, okay. I can't connect until I make sure the Wi Fi is on.
Mariana Cooper:So it's your own personal energetic Wi Fi essentially when I say connect. One of the easiest ways to do that is to take a deep breath, count backwards from 10 to one. And that puts you right into the alpha state, and it put it slows down the beta consciousness and it brings up the alpha state. And that's the connecting level to your higher self. And then communicate is where you start to get the messages.
Mariana Cooper:And the best thing you can do, keep a list of what you get. So if you feel like, oh, I got a hunch, write it down. Because then that gets your physiology involved and it gives permission to your higher self to turn the volume up because you're paying attention. It knows. And as soon as it knows that that corridor is open for communication where you're consciously saying, hey.
Mariana Cooper:Yes. I'm interested in getting these messages. The volume turns up and you get it. And then the final piece of the final c is create. And create is when you take inspired action.
Mariana Cooper:So your higher self will say, hey, go read this book or or go talk to this person or say yes to that interview or say no to that interview. When you take that inspired action, then it will give you the next step. And so there
Merry Elkins:are Are words you can say at all to get you there?
Mariana Cooper:What do you mean?
Merry Elkins:You know, just like is there we all say that we have to have the right words when we communicate in order to have in order to have more more confidence in ourselves or or to live a better life. And and it depends on what you say quite often and what you think, the words that you use to yourself. And I'm wondering, are there words that you use to get into this?
Mariana Cooper:No. I think it's more feel. I I can feel it. I don't I I think I guess if you were going to use a word, I would say, unwilling to know or tell me the what I need to know most right now. That's a really good one.
Mariana Cooper:Another really good one is if tell me what I'm missing that if I knew it would shift everything.
Merry Elkins:Oh, I like that.
Mariana Cooper:So I always you know, when I'm really stuck, you know, and I'm like, okay. I'm hitting up against the wall. I I you know, it happens to me too. You know? And I as fluent as I am in all of this, and I I can channel back and forth.
Mariana Cooper:Like, I can talk to you like this and channel like, even as you're talking to me now, I'm channeling the answers. You know? I'm, like, tuning in to, like, okay. What's for the highest and greatest good of the audience for you all for the shortest amount of words and the most amount of clarity, that type of thing. I sometimes I miss with the short words.
Mariana Cooper:Them. Get excited. But yeah, as far as words, open ended questions is the best. If you say what's the answer? You never want to use the word answer.
Mariana Cooper:You say what's the guidance? Because that gives
Merry Elkins:Dial in.
Mariana Cooper:That gives spaciousness Guidance. Yeah. Content coming to you. So we say, what's the answer? Actually, what's the answer?
Mariana Cooper:Tunes in your three d senses. Because you're rewarded as a child for decisiveness. Do you have the answer? No. Then you're an idiot.
Mariana Cooper:You know, you should have the answers. But when you as you get older, we realize that the answers aren't necessarily answers. The answers are the next step to a bigger picture.
Merry Elkins:Right. Right.
Mariana Cooper:Right. Channel of guidance. So that's what guidance is probably the better word.
Merry Elkins:Guidance. Yeah.
Cathy Worthington:What's the way that you can people can access their energetic communication system and activate the five d?
Mariana Cooper:The activation part what?
Cathy Worthington:I'm sorry. Sorry. I just repeated it. Yeah. Sorry.
Mariana Cooper:Yeah. Yeah. No. Well, as far as the the activation part, I I think the one of the quickest ways, I mean, there's plenty of advanced ways and and, you know, fancier ways. But one of the quickest ways was saying before is just counting backwards from 10 to one.
Mariana Cooper:Oh, yeah. And getting still, like move stopping your body. So silence plus stillness equals synchronicity.
Merry Elkins:Like that.
Mariana Cooper:Silence plus stillness. So your silence in the sense of you stop talking. Your stillness where you stop moving equals synchronicity, which is that communication system opening up because it's now it's giving you symbol signs, symbols, synchronicities, and messengers. Right? So so my so my little formula is silence plus stillness equals synchronicity.
Mariana Cooper:And it doesn't mean that you have to stop your life. You can be driving and do this. And this is why I mean this. When you're driving and you're fixated, you're still. If you turn off the radio and the phone and the texts and the recorders and the voice memos and your kids in the you're in the car by yourself and you can have silence of stimuli.
Merry Elkins:Mhmm. Mhmm. I like that.
Cathy Worthington:As long as you pay attention to the traffic.
Mariana Cooper:Right. Well, the traffic that becomes that's kind of almost part of your physiology because you've been driving for so long. Right? You're like Right. You're you're reflexive.
Mariana Cooper:It's become reflexive unless you're just learning how to drive. You're pretty reflexive. You know, have you ever driven to the grocery store and realized I was supposed to go to the cleaner, but I I do this every day. And somehow the car drove itself to the store, you know, because you're so it's such a
Merry Elkins:All the time.
Mariana Cooper:It's a reflex. That's why you can be so meditative when you're driving. It's a great time to be tuned in. All you have to do let's say you wanna you wanna try this, you wanna play with this. First of all, keep a notebook nearby, like a little memo pad or something just so you can jot things down, but when you get to your destination.
Mariana Cooper:But all you have do when you get in the car is say, okay, hire yourself. I'm open. I'm gonna no radios. No no no, you know, you know, Tesla and has Netflix. No no stimuli.
Mariana Cooper:I'm just gonna be here.
Cathy Worthington:They're gonna download TV. Netflix.
Mariana Cooper:Right. Yeah. What I need to know, no
Merry Elkins:emails, text often.
Mariana Cooper:Say what? I do that
Merry Elkins:I do that quite often. Is that
Mariana Cooper:Are
Merry Elkins:you do? Fact yeah. Is that what the factor is, and how can we use it to have more moments per day like that?
Mariana Cooper:I think when when it comes to the factor, the factor is recognizing that there's a frequency based aspect of everything that we that we do. Right? So the factor is essentially inviting that structure of the moment that I was talking about earlier into your experience. And the only way that you can really get all of this stuff to happen is to give it permission to happen. Because otherwise, if you don't ask, it it it can't come through the through the energy.
Mariana Cooper:You always have the freedom of your free will. Right? Now interestingly enough, on what side of the dashboard do you think the the the free will was inserted on? It's not on the five d side. The free will is on the three d side.
Mariana Cooper:So you can veto anything that you're getting from the five d. Like, hey. Take this rare or try this thing. Can say no. That's on the three d side.
Mariana Cooper:So the way that you're going to activate your factor is by recognizing that, yeah, I'm going to give permission to the frequency to become conscious for me so that I can use it to navigate the physical world. The ratio is supposed to be 80% energetic and 20% physical in how we navigate our worlds. But because people aren't educated enough in energy and frequency based physiology, they're overworking the 20%. And that's why we have anxiety and ADD and exhaustion and numbness and burnout and all that because we're overamping what wasn't supposed to be carrying the whole load. We're asking too much of our intellects and our, you know, our psyches.
Mariana Cooper:Yeah. Piece that the energy is supposed to be doing.
Merry Elkins:Yeah.
Cathy Worthington:Well, tell us more about how we can receive messages from our higher selves and know how to interpret them and become aware of the false messages we receive so we can manifest what we want.
Mariana Cooper:Oh, that's a lot. It's like four shows.
Cathy Worthington:I know.
Mariana Cooper:It's a lot. Well, can you repeat the first part of that question?
Cathy Worthington:How can we receive messages from our higher selves?
Mariana Cooper:So that would be asking. Right? So one of it so there's a couple ways. I can do do two two good tips. One is when I leave the house, I say, as I'm closing the door, may I come back wealthier than I left?
Merry Elkins:Wow. In all ways.
Mariana Cooper:With more clarity than I left. May come back with the answer that I've been seeking. You know, when I get home, I'll have the answer that I've been seeking. Or I've held the guidance that I've been seeking. Right?
Mariana Cooper:You can do this as you're getting in the car. By the time I come back, may I have blah blah blah more than what I left. So that's one way. I find that when you assign that and then you leave it alone, right? So he's like, when I get home, I'm gonna know more than what I left.
Mariana Cooper:Then you leave it to your higher self to configure what that looks like. If you get too handsy with it, you get your intellect in the way. And you can't, you know, and your intellect is limited. You shut off the access to the infinite information that has the answers. Your intellect can And
Cathy Worthington:that usually happens because we don't trust the process. We're not trusting it.
Mariana Cooper:Oh, you don't know the process. You can't trust what you haven't been taught and haven't been given some chance to build some confidence in. So you're not going to necessarily jump right in and say, oh, I'm so confident in all this stuff this woman is saying on YouTube. What you're going to say is, hey, I'm curious about this. Guess what curiosity does?
Mariana Cooper:It contunes into your inner child. Guess where your higher self always stops first is your inner child. Why? Because your inner child is the most open. Your inner child always operates from the heart.
Mariana Cooper:So if we're over adulting, so this child, the inner child, there's feminine, that's your visionary. And there's masculine, that's your tasker. Most of us, especially ambitious women, are over ramping in the masculine tasker, completely not listening to the inner child at all because they think it's frivolity. And then we do dabble in the vision, but we get ourselves we won't let our vision go too big because it might require too many tasks. So what we want to try to do is balance the child, the feminine, and the masculine.
Mariana Cooper:And again, bigger days conversation. But the best one of the best ways for your higher self to get to you is to play. To let yourself plant that plant, bake that bread, get the chicken, get the pig, whatever. And the last part the last part of
Cathy Worthington:the question was, how are we how are we becoming aware of the false messages that we may receive?
Mariana Cooper:Okay. So here's a couple of there's true guidance versus false guide. You know, everybody when people ask me one of the most popular questions people ask me is, well, how can I trust this guidance that you're talking about? How do I know if it's true or if it's my anxiety? That type of thing.
Mariana Cooper:So true guide let me talk about what false guidance feels like. So false guidance always happens outside of the body. And it's more like a cartoon caption. So let's say you're afraid of something, something going on in the world, something you know? So you go into the what ifs.
Mariana Cooper:And the what if, you immediately go up here. Like, what if this? And what if that? And what if this? And and then we start to analyze.
Mariana Cooper:And then we start to look for substantiation. We'll look at those statistics. And and it spins and it goes fast and it changes back and forth. That's when you know it's false guidance. It's not connected.
Mariana Cooper:True guidance is always in the body, deep in the body, like around your belly button. So false guidance is gonna have you focused outside of yourself and up. True guidance is gonna feel down past that in in between I call it the heart corridor from your throat down to your belly button. That's the heart that's your truth meter is from here to here, your throat to your belly button. So when you're saying, okay, is this true?
Mariana Cooper:Like, did he just say to me this? Now, is that true? Is that how does instead of saying, is that yeah. I think so. Say, how do I feel that feels good to me?
Mariana Cooper:Or that doesn't feel good to me as opposed to I think it is or I don't think. How does that feel? If somebody says, in my class I always teach them, these are the words you're allowed to say and these are the words you're not allowed to say anymore. And that makes sense, is going to tune you into three d. That feels right or that feels like the the right direction, tunes you into the five d.
Mariana Cooper:So thinking is and decisiveness is three d oriented, and feeling and knowing is five d oriented.
Merry Elkins:Oh, that's that's really powerful. Is, is there a step by step system in your five deal let me say that again. Five d toolkit on how to access the frequencies? Is that something that I believe you might have touched upon?
Mariana Cooper:Yeah. So the book that I have is I actually went I'm not sure where so originally, it was called the five d toolkit, but I published it as beyond intuition. So so you know. And so and and within the beyond intuition that we talk about the five d toolkit. And so and tell me what the question was again.
Merry Elkins:I think you covered it talking about the levels of the five d frequencies and how to access them, and I really think you covered it.
Mariana Cooper:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's all it's all in there.
Mariana Cooper:It's all step by step. Actually, in the book also, it gives you step by step to get your first fully downloaded message from your higher self and a frequency assessment. So you can kind of see what you're already using, where you're at, and what you might be missing so far. Oh, that sounds great.
Cathy Worthington:And tell us about your high frequency Living Academy and Advanced Alchemy Masterminds and how you've helped people with those.
Mariana Cooper:You guys are so generous. I appreciate you asking these questions. Oh, thank you. So I have two things going on. One is the High Frequency Living Academy.
Mariana Cooper:I really am a true my highest passion and mission is to get people as fluent in the language of their higher self as they are in their own intellectual self. And when you integrate the two, that's when you have truly magical living. That's when you have the full breadth of access to all the things that you came here to do. And so I built the academy around first part one is just getting you connected to the energetic communication system and getting into being able to perceive your higher self and recognize when it's there and how to access it, and then how to interpret the messages it sends, and how to have the confidence to take action on those messages. Once you get that connection with your higher self, you now have a narrator for your life.
Mariana Cooper:You literally can say, What the hell was that? And then, Okay, well, let's talk. And it can give you that that stream of consciousness to support you in the various things that you're going through in your life. Then once you take care of that, I want you to get your stuff. So that's step two in the in the academy, focus on manifesting.
Mariana Cooper:That means you have to fill your bucket list first. What happens with a lot of light workers and people are interested in in light leadership or in helping other people is they first try to go out and help each other people before they're willing to take to receive for themselves. It shouldn't it should be the other way around. I want you to have the tools to learn how to manifest for yourself. We work on a 300 piece bucket list.
Mariana Cooper:We write out 300 things on your bucket list. Wow. And we focus on the manifesting of the, you know, the manifesting practices in order to start to fill up your coffers. And once you know how to do that, then you naturally start to say, okay, how am gonna serve? What what's what how can I support?
Mariana Cooper:Something hits a chord, and you say, oh, that. And that's when we move from passion to mission. So your passion is your own for your own personal discovery. Your passions, whether you you know, can be anything from knitting to skiing to riding horses to barroom dancing to cooking to raising kids, whatever. But your passion is really your own personal learning journey in in in some sort of incubator.
Mariana Cooper:So it might be the incubator of tennis. And some days you're really good at tennis, and some days you suck at tennis, and then you hurt your ankle, and you have to heal, and you learn about healing. You know? It's a learning capsule. The mission though is different than a passion.
Mariana Cooper:A mission is when it's an invitation from your higher self to be in partnership for the greater good. So although I love ballroom dancing, I did competitive ballroom dancing for fifteen years. I flew all over the world competing. I danced with a lot of the stars on Dancing With The Stars when they were still competing themselves. I know a lot of them personally.
Mariana Cooper:It was not my calling. It was my passion.
Merry Elkins:Mhmm.
Mariana Cooper:It it it I could lose money. I could make money. I could spend all kinds of money and never make it back. I could fly all over the place. As hard as I work, I wasn't meant was not my mission to be a competitive bottom dancer.
Merry Elkins:But they can interrupt. Can they not?
Mariana Cooper:They can. However, a mission pulls out in front of you and a mission is fueled by a different thing. Because a mission now in a passion, you can fail. And it's actually part of the package of passion because it's part of the learning curve. In a mission, you can't because a mission is built for the greater good.
Mariana Cooper:A mission is also self financed. So a mission, you will have money sent to you to get it done. And that's where you start to know, okay, this is something bigger. This has taken on a life of you hear people say, this has taken on a life of its own. Like, this started off with something I thought was a passion.
Mariana Cooper:But what a lot of people do is they try to take a passion or a hobby and force it to be income producing, and then they lose money and they make money and they you know, it kinda doesn't go because it's not necessarily a mission. So your higher self, when you're on to mission world, after you filled up your tank, then it's like I always say, if you're gonna help other people, it's like a a mug of beer. You help them from the foam that's coming over the side of the glass, not from what's in the glass itself. You need to drink what's in the glass itself, and then the excess is what you have as the surplus to go and present to other people.
Merry Elkins:I I
Cathy Worthington:have oxygen mask on the plane.
Merry Elkins:Yes. Yes. Sorry. Yeah. I I have to ask you, though.
Merry Elkins:What about relationships? What if you see someone else's higher self, but their three d that you you feel and see doesn't relate to the five d? What do you say about that? How do you get that to work together?
Mariana Cooper:So are you asking for for a relationship that you're in, or are you asking for, like
Merry Elkins:I'm just asking that because I see where people can be really powerfully gifted with a five d sensibility, and yet they don't act that way in the real world?
Mariana Cooper:Well, there's a lot of different reasons. A good chunk of that is because they need to do some clearing. So the first thing I do when I bring people in, we all do a specific clearing so that you can get rid of all of those old points of reference, and then that gives you new access without the kind of the boulders in a way and all the yeah, buts, what if, if onlys, the worthiness stuff. We need to kinda get that out of the way. When it comes to relationships, though, it's interesting to watch other people.
Mariana Cooper:The more the best thing you can do, and this is part of energetic infrastructure. Again, it's a bigger concept, but I'll say it anyway. As you elevate yourself, everyone in your space starts to elevate as well or they drop away. Right? And it's very interesting.
Mariana Cooper:Like, my mom, she went to she was, you know, third gen you know, she was the second generation intuitive and all of that, but she rejected it at some point. I think she got into some really dark times in her life. She said, okay, something's not working. And she kind of went back into what I call muggled up, you know, and just kind of shut it down. And I was like on a runaway train with the spirituality and she's like, you know, so she became quite critical.
Mariana Cooper:And, you know, for a while it really stumped me. It was really hurtful. It was hurtful, quite frankly. It was created a lot of friction. And she had all these talents and abilities.
Mariana Cooper:She's a psychotherapist. She could channel her psychotherapy sessions and often did. But I I studied with a teacher and he said, look, focus on elevating yourself. And then your frequency raises, your attraction level raises, and you'll attract the level of person that you are. So everybody has versions of themselves.
Mariana Cooper:And as I raise my vibration, as I learned more of this, by the time my mom, you know, was in her later stages of life, She did the same thing. It was like a totally different person. She started meditating. She started reading books. You know, I helped a little bit, but I didn't help that much.
Mariana Cooper:But because I was elevating and I was focusing on myself, it was a magnetic and this is how frequency works. We magnetize who we are. We can you know, we attract who we are and the version of those people. Sometimes if you know, your spouse will start it won't it won't be right in sync. But as you raise, you'll notice like on his own or on her own, they're there they start to raise on their own.
Mariana Cooper:Other way other times, they'll drop away and you'll be like, well, okay. Right? It's just meant to split. That was a season. Frequency is a very interesting thing.
Mariana Cooper:It's magnetic. And there's all different versions of all of us. So I think that you don't have to worry about kind of fixing other people or convincing someone that they need to do this too. You never want to really do that. You can introduce it.
Mariana Cooper:But the more you do it yourself, you become that magnet and they start to it's it's stunning to see how people start to behave differently when you start to shift those inner Yeah.
Cathy Worthington:And thank you for giving us several examples of how to elevate the higher self. Because I would never have thought of making soup to be something one of those things. So Yeah. In fact, can I was gonna ask you what you would like our audience to have as a takeaway today? Maybe you could list some more things that they can do to access their high our higher selves or anything else you want us to take away.
Cathy Worthington:It doesn't have to be that.
Mariana Cooper:I think the thing that's most important to remember, especially now when we have such volatile times that we're all going to. And I've been doing a tremendous amount of political conversations with all of this too that again, another day's conversation we don't have to do that now. The most important thing you can do right now is to double down on your dreams. Double down. If you're in a business, it's time to pivot.
Mariana Cooper:You have to be willing to pivot and say, and this you don't have to be fluent in the language of your heart self, but you just say the sentences, show me where I can best shine at this time. Show me where I can best shine at this time. And you will be supplied. This isn't lasting forever. This will take it's gonna have its run.
Mariana Cooper:But as far as light leaders are concerned, like I have a new light leaders council, and I have a membership group. High Frequency Living With Mari membership. I I was just I have an agent that I'm signed with in in LA. And he set me up for a meeting with a publicist and she said, oh, well describe yourself. I said, well, I'm kind of like Joanna Gaines and Joe Dispenza had a baby.
Mariana Cooper:That would be me. It's like the high frequency homestead. You know? Like like, get with the chickens and the horses and the dogs. But, you know, like, we're talking to the higher self and, you know?
Mariana Cooper:And she said, oh my gosh. I get that. I get that. So important to be willing to hybrid yourself, like hyphenate yourself. Be willing to say, yeah, high frequency living and farming at the same time.
Mariana Cooper:That's me. Or you know, you could be writing a book or painting. Pull out your paints again. All the things that you say, I'm gonna get to that. I just have to focus on this for now.
Mariana Cooper:Pull the I'm gonna get to that ones out. Because what that does is without all this intellectual stuff that I'm talking about, like all these how to's, it naturally sticks you right into that that arena of the field.
Merry Elkins:Yeah.
Mariana Cooper:It makes you available to those insights. It lifts your optimism. You radiate out, and the best gift that you can give anyone is your own joy. Because then you're an example on a permission slip for what they can do for themselves.
Merry Elkins:Oh, that's perfect. A perfect way
Merry Elkins:to end our
Mariana Cooper:Thank
Merry Elkins:you so much, Mari. Our guest today on Late Boomers has been Mariana Cooper, a third generation intuitive life strategist, radio host, founder of the High Frequency Living Academy, and the Advanced Alchemy Masterminds. She's the author of the Factor and Beyond Intuition. And if you want to reach Mariana, go to her website, beyondintuitionbook.com. Is that right, Marty?
Mariana Cooper:That's correct. That's right. Thank you
Cathy Worthington:so much. She's got a lot of info on there for you, so check it out. And tune in next week when we'll be meeting with publisher John Bond. Please subscribe to our late boomers podcast on YouTube. Take us along in the car and on walks on your favorite audio platform.
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Mariana Cooper:Thank you so much for having me. It's been so much fun.
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